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Old 05-09-2020, 01:41 AM
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You have a very short memory. Or you are three years old?
Yes. I’m three.

Let’s go back a few...
Was Hillary worse than Joe?
Was the combination of Obama/Romney worse?
Obama/McCain?
Bush/Kerry? Okay. Maybe those two.
But I’m only three so I don’t remember them.

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Old 05-09-2020, 04:16 AM
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For far too long now, politicians of all stripes have been putting themselves, their party, their friends and donors first, to the detriment of the country. They should be doing what is best for the country, first and foremost.

I know, I know, I'm probably dreaming by this point.

The response to the covid 19 pandemic has been a disaster.

I must say though, not all politicians are atrocious. It's 99% of them that give the rest a bad name.
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Old 05-09-2020, 12:28 PM
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I just donít get how the most powerful country in the world put someone so terribly unprepared and incapable of running it in charge...

I also donít see how anyone can justify doing it again a second term...
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I just don’t get how the most powerful country in the world put someone so terribly unprepared and incapable of running it in charge...

I also don’t see how anyone can justify doing it again a second term...
I’d vote for him over Trudeau every time.
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We may need to start an investigation into Canadian influence on the 2020 election.

I’d bet if Congress were to reach down and dig really really deep, they’d find that someone in the Trump organization has had a conversation in a bar with someone distantly related to someone in the Canadian Administration.
Heck, if they REALLY were bold, they might find someone on the Biden team may even have spoken with someone from north of the border. But that would take real fortitude. They might find something they don’t like there and then spend a ton of political and media capital on how to spin that.

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I just donít get how the most powerful country in the world put someone so terribly unprepared and incapable of running it in charge...

I also donít see how anyone can justify doing it again a second term...
You would rather vote for the same career politicians that do nothing and sell us out to the rest of the world/or send CASH to Iran?

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Yes. Iím three.

Letís go back a few...
Was Hillary worse than Joe?
Was the combination of Obama/Romney worse?
Obama/McCain?
Bush/Kerry? Okay. Maybe those two.
But Iím only three so I donít remember them.
Hillary ran 4 years ago ergo you must be three years old to have... ah, forget it.
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Iíd vote for him over Trudeau every time.
Wouldnít vote for Trudeau either...
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You would rather vote for the same career politicians that do nothing and sell us out to the rest of the world/or send CASH to Iran?

Figure that one out big brother
Iíd vote for someone that can sell me a lie at least in the short term... lol
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Hillary ran 4 years ago ergo you must be three years old to have... ah, forget it.
So youíre saying she WAS a worse candidate than Joe?

Remember, Iím three, so you have to explain things to me in simple terms.
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I just don’t get how the most powerful country in the world put someone so terribly unprepared and incapable of running it in charge...

I also don’t see how anyone can justify doing it again a second term...
I can explain that for you. Voters were sick and tired of voting for career politicians who ended up serving only their own interests once elected into office. Trump offered the angle of a guy who wasnt a politician who would serve interests without allegiance to a political party. After obama, who angered lots of voters by getting involved with local police/private shooting events that were high visibility, voters wanted a candidate who might be more level headed and indifferent to the desires of political agendas.

Now all of those voters realize that trump failed to deliver on literally all of those promises. The population is now relegated to deciding which of our 2 sh|tbag candidates are the lesser of 2 evils. The trump experiment is over. He has behaved exactly like the cookie cutter politician he promised to destroy.

At the time it may have been an experiment worth entertaining...but weve all seen enough. If biden gets elected, it wilp be purely out of the spite trump has created for himself. We are screwed either way.
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I can explain that for you. Voters were sick and tired of voting for career politicians who ended up serving only their own interests once elected into office. Trump offered the angle of a guy who wasnt a politician who would serve interests without allegiance to a political party. After obama, who angered lots of voters by getting involved with local police/private shooting events that were high visibility, voters wanted a candidate who might be more level headed and indifferent to the desires of political agendas.

Now all of those voters realize that trump failed to deliver on literally all of those promises. The population is now relegated to deciding which of our 2 sh|tbag candidates are the lesser of 2 evils. The trump experiment is over. He has behaved exactly like the cookie cutter politician he promised to destroy.

At the time it may have been an experiment worth entertaining...but weve all seen enough. If biden gets elected, it wilp be purely out of the spite trump has created for himself. We are screwed either way.
What promises has Trump failed to deliver on? I've seen more action taken by this administration to fulfill campaign promises than any I can recall in my lifetime. And this has been done with 24/7 negative media coverage, constant attacks by the D's and RINOs, spying and BS investigations against him, etc etc during and leading up to his presidency. If nothing else it has shown exactly why he is delivering or attempting to get things done, which completely flies in the face of the DC establishment what it has done which is very little to nothing for Americans for decades now, and that swamp is using everything they can to take him out.
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What promises has Trump failed to deliver on? I've seen more action taken by this administration to fulfill campaign promises than any I can recall in my lifetime. And this has been done with 24/7 negative media coverage, constant attacks by the D's and RINOs, spying and BS investigations against him, etc etc during and leading up to his presidency. If nothing else it has shown exactly why he is delivering or attempting to get things done, which completely flies in the face of the DC establishment what it has done which is very little to nothing for Americans for decades now, and that swamp is using everything they can to take him out.
Giving bailout money to his millionaire corporate friends and including a tax loophole for taxpayers making over a million dollars a year during a pandemic is a start.


Hes done absolutely nothing he promised during his campaign...which makes him no different than any other run of the mill politician. He sounds like an idiot every time he speaks, he uses twitter religiously, and he's lucky that his only competition is a muppet who nodded his head in silence as VP. ..
Remember "drain the swamp"? I do, because it's what we needed and it's why he was voted into office. Now he and his friends are the swamp.

If anything, i hope this helps the public realize that the office of President doesnt really warrant control of most of our most critical programs. I knew this back when he was elected and so i wasn't really worried about any damage he might try to incur...

The most critical programs are run by an elite few and the president has almost no control over it. And thank teenage jesus he doesn't...because he has proven that he is a fu(king moron.
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What promises has Trump failed to deliver on? I've seen more action taken by this administration to fulfill campaign promises than any I can recall in my lifetime. And this has been done with 24/7 negative media coverage, constant attacks by the D's and RINOs, spying and BS investigations against him, etc etc during and leading up to his presidency. If nothing else it has shown exactly why he is delivering or attempting to get things done, which completely flies in the face of the DC establishment what it has done which is very little to nothing for Americans for decades now, and that swamp is using everything they can to take him out.
Of course, he's been making good on ALL his promises and you and I can plainly see it but for some, they have TDS so bad that they cannot see it through their pure hatred for the man. Yes, he's crass, obnoxious, rough and conceited but he brought us the greatest economy the World has ever seen. He pushes God, Family and Country which the Libs and their ilk cannot stand. He understands that America's health all around (financially, spiritually, militarily etc) must come first as we are the Mother and major protector of the World. Same as a plane losing oxygen. The oxygen masks come down and the mothers with their child are told to place their own mask on first instead of the child first. It's so the Mother can stay awake and healthy to take care of the child.

We can talk about his many victories but there's no point. They are blind, deaf and dumb to the issues. No matter what you say, what facts which there are many that you lay at their feet, they HATE him sooo much that they'd rather see this Country burn and people die than give credit to Trumps successes and his victories.

I am not a Republican, I am a Libertarian but before this virus, even I can plainly see the results that are proven and factual that Trump has done for this Country in 3 1/2 short years. Don't even get me started on Barry Obama. Worst POTUS in history next to Carter (who personally is a great human being).
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Old 05-19-2020, 04:52 AM
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Giving bailout money to his millionaire corporate friends and including a tax loophole for taxpayers making over a million dollars a year during a pandemic is a start.


Hes done absolutely nothing he promised during his campaign...which makes him no different than any other run of the mill politician. He sounds like an idiot every time he speaks, he uses twitter religiously, and he's lucky that his only competition is a muppet who nodded his head in silence as VP. ..
Remember "drain the swamp"? I do, because it's what we needed and it's why he was voted into office. Now he and his friends are the swamp.

If anything, i hope this helps the public realize that the office of President doesnt really warrant control of most of our most critical programs. I knew this back when he was elected and so i wasn't really worried about any damage he might try to incur...

The most critical programs are run by an elite few and the president has almost no control over it. And thank teenage jesus he doesn't...because he has proven that he is a fu(king moron.
I guess we see things differently. The swamp is certainly draining, and the corruption of it is being exposed more and more each passing day. The Fed goverment as a whole going back decades has done a terrible job with pretty much everything. They would f up a wet dream. Not sure what critical programs you are referring to, though I have some guesses. We can argue about things that are going on and whether Trump gets credit. What I do suspect is serious things stopped and are being reversed for the better by individuals who finally had enough and decided to do something about it. I just happen to believe he falls in that category.

I'm enjoying the movie, its gonna get even juicier and bigger as the weeks tick by.
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Of course, he's been making good on ALL his promises and you and I can plainly see it but for some, they have TDS so bad that they cannot see it through their pure hatred for the man. Yes, he's crass, obnoxious, rough and conceited but he brought us the greatest economy the World has ever seen. He pushes God, Family and Country which the Libs and their ilk cannot stand. He understands that America's health all around (financially, spiritually, militarily etc) must come first as we are the Mother and major protector of the World. Same as a plane losing oxygen. The oxygen masks come down and the mothers with their child are told to place their own mask on first instead of the child first. It's so the Mother can stay awake and healthy to take care of the child.

We can talk about his many victories but there's no point. They are blind, deaf and dumb to the issues. No matter what you say, what facts which there are many that you lay at their feet, they HATE him sooo much that they'd rather see this Country burn and people die than give credit to Trumps successes and his victories.

I am not a Republican, I am a Libertarian but before this virus, even I can plainly see the results that are proven and factual that Trump has done for this Country in 3 1/2 short years. Don't even get me started on Barry Obama. Worst POTUS in history next to Carter (who personally is a great human being).

Clearly this is a sarcastic post. I pretty much stopped reading when you said Trump practices ďGod, Family, and country.Ē And when you stop sending aid and pull out of every single thing that can help other countries militarily or financially, that is ďnotĒ leading by example. Also, Heís basically **** on every ally and befriended every dictator thatís out there. Heís also one of the few presidents that is benefitting financially from the presidency while in office. Even Bush Jr. gave up his business rights. So, Pretty much everything you have said I completely disagree with. Thatís why I think heíll go down as one of the worst presidents in history. Next to Bush. But the right will raise him up like Reagan as if he should be put on Mt. Rushmore with Reagan. Anyways, Iím sorry Speedy, but I canít agree with anything you said besides the crass obnoxious part....
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. Yes, he's crass, obnoxious, rough and conceited but he brought us the greatest economy the World has ever seen. He pushes God, Family and Country which the Libs and their ilk cannot stand. t to Trumps successes and his victories.
The candidates:

One is an obnoxious, arrogant, conceited 73 year-old man,
One is an arrogant 77 year-old frat rat.

One is used to wielding power from wealth,
One is used to wielding power from politics.

One has a family that made a fortune before he went into politics.
One went into politics and then his family made a fortune.

One has the established media digging deeply into his every utterance,
One has the established media fearing that his next utterance may be so incoherent that they will actually have to report it.

One chose a vice president that, should the president be incapacitated, will frequently mention religion and how important it is in his life,
One will choose a vice president that, should he be incapacitated, will do everything she can to not talk about any religion other than Islam.

One might be taking Viagra and seems to love being with adult women.
One might be taking Namenda to help him remember where his Viagra is, and for decades has been touchy-feely when around young girls.


It's all politics. Many of us like one candidate and one party more than another. It's been this way since the country was founded. We citizens don't see eye-to-eye on issues. It's the beauty of having a society in which we get to vote for the philosophies we like. If we end up on the losing end, there's always another vote two or four years away. Heck, we can even jump into it ourselves.
I know that many on DD don't agree with me on many issues. That's actually terrific. It's just a small piece of life in this amazing country.
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I guess we see things differently. The swamp is certainly draining, and the corruption of it is being exposed more and more each passing day. The Fed goverment as a whole going back decades has done a terrible job with pretty much everything. They would f up a wet dream. Not sure what critical programs you are referring to, though I have some guesses. We can argue about things that are going on and whether Trump gets credit. What I do suspect is serious things stopped and are being reversed for the better by individuals who finally had enough and decided to do something about it. I just happen to believe he falls in that category.

I'm enjoying the movie, its gonna get even juicier and bigger as the weeks tick by.
Maybe we do. I was all for giving a non-politician a chance, hoping it would change the course of our nation's leadership...but i was wrong. The swamp was drained of libs and filled with trump's friends and relatives. Ive no idea how he still has support from his constituents, but im pretty sure its 100% due to an uncanny hatred for democrats.
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Maybe we do. I was all for giving a non-politician a chance, hoping it would change the course of our nation's leadership...but i was wrong. The swamp was drained of libs and filled with trump's friends and relatives. Ive no idea how he still has support from his constituents, but im pretty sure its 100% due to an uncanny hatred for democrats.
I understand your point about his family/friends taking positions. I believe that's entirely a trust issue that has served him well in his life, and its for sure played out since taking office with the amount of turncoats and saboteurs he's dealt with that carried over from previous administrations. I'm hoping corruption does not follow. I will freely admit I'm not a fan of all of his policies. Some that I questioned I ended up supporting later as I saw how it would play out, and hope that continues as the bigger picture and framework being established takes shape.

Hate for dems, perhaps, for me its hate for a large number of people on both sides who have sold out America and its citizens continually while enriching themselves and making us weaker to forces both internal and external that undermine our values and way of life.
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The most critical programs are run by an elite few and the president has almost no control over it. And thank teenage jesus he doesn't...because he has proven that he is a fu(king moron.
Anyone who watches his press briefers and doesn't think this guy has a low IQ, or is generously operating with diminishing capabilities, is kidding themselves.
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How's the comparison shaping up to his predecessor? Watch and see how this chess match plays out...
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The rats are slowing starting to jump off the sinking ship. Trump only has a real support of only 15% to 20% of the population who is really noisy. Trump has never had a real friend and never will.
You are pulling numbers out of the air or maybe some place else.
I wonder what the Democrats think of each other after planning lies after lies like the Whistle Blower. They have to look at each other in the eye knowing that they are liars too. Birds of a feather.
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Biden or Trump?
They both seem to have diminished capabilities in some major ways.
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Biden or Trump?
They both seem to have diminished capabilities in some major ways.
They are both nearly 80. Is this the best we can do, seriously.

Biden probably just needs to do a weekend at Bernie's and keep his trap shut to fall over the line. I don't see either of these two being very good over the next 4 years. Trump however being immeasurably worse.
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